tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4352179045764689947.post1026798100311165505..comments2023-05-22T02:23:18.166-07:00Comments on tallgrassworship: "Well, Duh!" EnvironmentalismJoycehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10463831506588682774noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4352179045764689947.post-21277667391932320012008-05-20T05:41:00.000-07:002008-05-20T05:41:00.000-07:00Don't forget to put a sign by the coffee maker enc...Don't forget to put a sign by the coffee maker encouraging/thanking people who bring their own cups? More people probably see the coffee maker than your blog, no offense. I know at our church even people w/no computer drink coffee! Just a thought...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4352179045764689947.post-68906935852767814932008-04-12T10:11:00.000-07:002008-04-12T10:11:00.000-07:00The way I understand it, the reason we shifted to ...The way I understand it, the reason we shifted to using paper plates at church suppers is that we were going to have to do a major overhaul of our kitchen in order to meet health standards for sterile washing-up. There is a way to do it, but you have to have some people n the congregation go through a certification course, and one of them then has to be present at every kitchen related function. So it's kind of a complicated issue. We could just start with the cups, and see how that goes.Joycehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10463831506588682774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4352179045764689947.post-30957145065453631392008-04-12T09:44:00.000-07:002008-04-12T09:44:00.000-07:00My pastor is now calling me the Greenie. I'm rat...My pastor is now calling me the Greenie. I'm rattling the cage to look at these issues quickly. <BR/><BR/>At a minimum I suggested only buying Seventh Generation (or similar) recycled products and then recycling. Right now we have NO bins anywhere. I'd like to ban juice boxes and such as you can't recycle those either. <BR/><BR/>I've also suggested compostable cups and such. <BR/><BR/>I'm really pushing towards the idea of just having real plastes, cups, spoons, etc. and washing them. We have a bang up kitchen and plenty of hands. <BR/><BR/>My point is that it is an earth stewardship issue, and most things that are worth it do require more thought and effort. It's also better financially for the church in the long term IMHO. <BR/><BR/>I think if we can send folks to Africa, build houses in New Orleans and do the host of all sorts of other biggie things we can surely wash a few durn plates and cups.Going Crunchyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01885445987575778289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4352179045764689947.post-82183978936777134952008-04-12T08:33:00.000-07:002008-04-12T08:33:00.000-07:00Good point, Joyce. Somehow we all get out in publ...Good point, Joyce. Somehow we all get out in public and the way we live more consciously at home just disappears in a puff of smoke. I'm as guilty as the next person.Green Beanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03133847111288382381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4352179045764689947.post-75406245144416782562008-04-12T07:11:00.000-07:002008-04-12T07:11:00.000-07:00This might be of interest<A HREF="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2184/2406988437_24dd8b0671_o.gif" REL="nofollow">This might be of interest</A>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09976783554909536532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4352179045764689947.post-27690138546469186532008-04-12T06:32:00.000-07:002008-04-12T06:32:00.000-07:00There go all your free art supplies, Grant!There go all your free art supplies, Grant!Joycehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10463831506588682774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4352179045764689947.post-20045441587952079322008-04-12T06:19:00.000-07:002008-04-12T06:19:00.000-07:00If we can go after bog tobacco and have huge taxes...If we can go after bog tobacco and have huge taxes on those products, I think the same thing can apply to Styrofoam products. Actually if you think about it, the dangers of Styrofoam are more universal than even second hand smoking.<BR/><BR/>I'll have to look around and find an alternative product to use when we make our "etchings" out of meat trays at school. :(<BR/><BR/>+Grant- patron saint of Green Gooney-birds (depicted here with coffee mug)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09976783554909536532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4352179045764689947.post-280844757826851442008-04-12T06:10:00.000-07:002008-04-12T06:10:00.000-07:00Green Bean, I know a lot of these people recycle a...Green Bean, I know a lot of these people recycle at home, but somehow we all forget that when we're in a public space. But for a church member, church IS home, so we should just carry our good habits over to that building, too.<BR/><BR/>Cindy, I think about this all the time. If you figure in disposal and recycling costs, everything has hidden expenses that we are paying. Honestly, though I'm not big on disincentives, I'd love to see a big honking tax on Styrofoam!Joycehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10463831506588682774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4352179045764689947.post-22586008384395415122008-04-12T00:28:00.000-07:002008-04-12T00:28:00.000-07:00Nice suggestion, especially in the church. In my v...Nice suggestion, especially in the church. In my very humble opinion, the price of styro-foam cups does not reflect the real cost. We have a a disjointed cradle to grave lifecycle. The first part stops at final product and second part picks up when the final product is consumed and tossed. We as consumers wind up paying for the second part. As the landfill gets more and more scares, the second part will get more expensive. Either the consumers will continue to shoulder the ever increasing burden, or the cost will be shifted to the manufacturers. For example, in Europe, all PC manufacturers get charge a x% of their shipment to cover for the recycle/disposal cost. Perhaps it will be the way in the future for us in the US as well. Have a great weekend.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4352179045764689947.post-8254425847736179912008-04-11T21:42:00.000-07:002008-04-11T21:42:00.000-07:00Joyce, it is so great that you are suggesting chan...Joyce, it is so great that you are suggesting changes like this in your church. Changes made there will surely spill over into people's daily lives.Green Beanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03133847111288382381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4352179045764689947.post-18487433541050559342008-04-11T16:05:00.000-07:002008-04-11T16:05:00.000-07:00You'll be patron saint of Green Gooney-birds!You'll be patron saint of Green Gooney-birds!Joycehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10463831506588682774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4352179045764689947.post-69819689487692361972008-04-11T15:07:00.000-07:002008-04-11T15:07:00.000-07:00I started doing this when I was at UBC circa 1999....I started doing this when I was at UBC circa 1999. People thought it was so strange and they started calling my mug a "Linus Blanket"<BR/><BR/>If I am martyred and they make an icon about me, the caption will read "St. Grant shown here with faithful coffee mug"<BR/><BR/>:)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09976783554909536532noreply@blogger.com